"I'm making a documentary right now - uh, making a few - but...i'm making a movie about vans and van touring. Because back in the day, that's how younger independent bands, the van was the tour bus for the punk rockers in the 80's. Everybody had a van. Even before, like long before - vans go way back. So i've interviewed everybody, and you'd be surprised. Like, The Beatles toured in a van. Guns N' Roses, Metallica, U2. There's something about that time, you know, it's like you wear it like a badge. You're like, 'Oh, shit, yeah'. I toured in a band for five years, sleeping on floors, butter sandwiches and getting paid two dollars a night.
The movie's not so much about, like, really awesome van tour anecdotes - which it is, there are many - but it's really more about the drive to do it. Why would anyone give up everything, quit their job, leave home, leave everything behind, just to chase this dream with no guarantee that you're ever going to make it? And you starve and bleed and you're sick and you're pissed and you get taken to jail and get in fights and blahblah - but you always get to the next gig. Like, you ALWAYS get to the next gig. So you'd be surprised, everybody has the same story, and it is absolutely a key to success."
I saw this last year and I have a hunch that this is the project:
It's intriguing the @punkbandvans is followed by William Goldsmith, and they follow him back. Maybe he's behind the project and approached Roswell Films to shoot the doc?
I think William even mentioned Punk Band Vans on one of his podcast appearances last year. He presented it like he'd casually stumbled upon it, though, so it could just be a coincidence. Plus a tag mentions this guy as a 'correspondent'. But @FooArchive found a quote where DG mentioned the idea in 2014 so these accounts could very well be this specific project, and William being involved would be QUITE the development.
A couple of other things from this podcast:
"We just finished making a record" - Dave was spotted at Sundance on Jan 25/26 so we can flag the album as being completed before this date, almost definitely by early Jan as that's when the teasers started
As above: "Some of those songs...sometimes the best ones happen in 45 minutes"
"There's a riff on the new record that i've been working on for 25 fucking years - first time I demoed it was in my basement in Seattle, and every record i'm like, 'Ooh, let's put it on' but it didn't work" (from this session, perhaps?)
"Nevermind, all those drum parts - that's The Gap Band" (specifically Burn Rubber On Me, which when you hear it now it SO obvious)
One of the first people to like that post is in a band that Dave saw at the Black Cat in Feb 2014...then he was talking about the doco idea towards the end of the year...?
The page owner themselves, though, happens to be Joseph McRedmond from Hoover. And there's the connection. Certainly explains why William's following it, they and SDRE = emo
Eh, even as I posted that, I thought merely being at the same venue doesn't mean they met and began collaborating, so I left it and found out who the page owner is.
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"I'm making a documentary right now - uh, making a few - but...i'm making a movie about vans and van touring. Because back in the day, that's how younger independent bands, the van was the tour bus for the punk rockers in the 80's. Everybody had a van. Even before, like long before - vans go way back. So i've interviewed everybody, and you'd be surprised. Like, The Beatles toured in a van. Guns N' Roses, Metallica, U2. There's something about that time, you know, it's like you wear it like a badge. You're like, 'Oh, shit, yeah'. I toured in a band for five years, sleeping on floors, butter sandwiches and getting paid two dollars a night.
The movie's not so much about, like, really awesome van tour anecdotes - which it is, there are many - but it's really more about the drive to do it. Why would anyone give up everything, quit their job, leave home, leave everything behind, just to chase this dream with no guarantee that you're ever going to make it? And you starve and bleed and you're sick and you're pissed and you get taken to jail and get in fights and blahblah - but you always get to the next gig. Like, you ALWAYS get to the next gig. So you'd be surprised, everybody has the same story, and it is absolutely a key to success."
I saw this last year and I have a hunch that this is the project:
https://www.facebook.com/pg/punkbandvans/about/
Interesting. The Instagram account https://www.instagram.com/punkbandvans/ has been pretty active since May 2019.
Ah ha ha. William follows the IG. Interesting.
Band Vans is a living project culminating in a book and film about touring musicians and the vehicles that barely got them from town to town.
So is the "recreate the 1995 tour even using the same van" idea back on then? Or is this what that idea turned into?
It's intriguing the @punkbandvans is followed by William Goldsmith, and they follow him back. Maybe he's behind the project and approached Roswell Films to shoot the doc?
Curiouser and curiouser.... I’m interested...
I think William even mentioned Punk Band Vans on one of his podcast appearances last year. He presented it like he'd casually stumbled upon it, though, so it could just be a coincidence. Plus a tag mentions this guy as a 'correspondent'. But @FooArchive found a quote where DG mentioned the idea in 2014 so these accounts could very well be this specific project, and William being involved would be QUITE the development.
A couple of other things from this podcast:
Nice! Some news about his projects and the record! Thanks @matineeidyll for The Gap band link, i don't think i would have looked it up and wow!
This is the first post so I don't actually think this is it, unless DG/Roswell took over
That was an interesting podcast. I could listen to Dave tell stories all day.
Record officially finished! Awesome! 😃
yea it's possible that they reached out to Dave to direct their film. Might know him personally.
i don't ever see twitter links
No they stopped working a few days ago, I was testing because someone said twitter fixed it on their end, but no dice.
One of the first people to like that post is in a band that Dave saw at the Black Cat in Feb 2014...then he was talking about the doco idea towards the end of the year...?
The page owner themselves, though, happens to be Joseph McRedmond from Hoover. And there's the connection. Certainly explains why William's following it, they and SDRE = emo
whats the relevance here?
Eh, even as I posted that, I thought merely being at the same venue doesn't mean they met and began collaborating, so I left it and found out who the page owner is.
Coorection: The interview was done the weekend of 01/26-27/2020
Well, accounting for time difference 😁